Are the past and future mere imagination?
If all is imagination, even your utterance as "its all imagination", is part of that imagination?
Of course it is.
If it is, why should I give your imagery utterance, any weight age?
Do not weight age.
Or do give weight age.
A giving of weight age, or not giving any weight age, is just imagination at play.
Whose imagination is at play?
Which is nothing but yours.
And thus neither mine or yours
This does not help me.
If you say so, .........it must be the gospel truth.:-)
That, there is someone to be helped, births a helper.
Just powerful imagination at play.
What about my 20 years Sadhna?
What about it?
Are you saying its all imagination?
What about my experiences of Samadhi?
What about so many people who have claimed enlightenment,
doing Sadhna, doing meditation?
Never said imagination at play, is not powerfully creative.
Again that bloody imagination.
Can you tell me in simple words, whose imagination?
For That-which-imagines, you can use whatever name, term, label that gives you peace of mind.
And know that, in naming, in conceptualizing, even as "that-which-imagines",
imagination has reared its beautiful head.
For only within imagination is there a need to refer, to allude,
to name and thus to seek that-which- imagines.
In order to scratch, there must be a need to create an itch isn't it?
Are you telling me my spirituality is an itch?
And that too, within an imagination?
Its all imagination at play.
Including that there is somebody like you who is asking questions
and that there is somebody sitting across answering,
that its all imagination.
How does all this imagery help me deal with my suffering? With the world's suffering?
Wait, I know what you will say......
....My suffering, the world's suffering, the world, is all imagination at play.
Knowing its all an imagination, which includes the one who knows this,
do whatsoever you are moved to alleviate your suffering, the world's suffering.
Or sit in a road-side Cafe, sipping Colombian coffee, idly watching the world pass by.
My suffering is that I am firmly convinced my suffering is real.
And thus I need to seek a remedy for my real suffering.
Wow, even after Samadhi, you continue to suffer.
I do not deny,........ that .........if you hold yourself to be real,
your suffering is not real.
And thus to you, the relevance of the need to seek remedial measures
is not real for you.
So, continue to believe that whatever you are doing, will provide
What is the issue with that?
20 years of that doing, obtained numerous satoris, couple of Samadhis,
here I am still asking the same questions.
Obviously I am doing something wrong.
In imagination, can there be anything "wrong"?
As a child, you must have played some form of the "lets-pretend" game.
Was anything ever "wrong" in that game?
You made up the rules, some of the most weirdest ones .
And you played by those rules.
And when Mom yelled that she would send you back from where you came from,
if you did not haul ass and have your bath RIGHT NOW,
you ceased that game .
And without bothering whether you had "won" or
"lost" in your pretend game,
you dragged yourself to the bath tub,
for your favourite ducky.
you dragged yourself to the bath tub,
searching for your favourite ducky.
In your pretend game you were always the winner,
whether you actually "won" by those made-up rules or not.
So you are saying, I must pretend I have won my spiritual struggle,
whether I have got my ducky or not?
That, right now you have yet to win, is imagination at play.
That, in future you will win, is imagination at play
When you believe, you have actually WON,
that will be again imagination at play.
Is there anything which is not imagination at play?
This, right now.
Not what you think or conceptualize "this, right now",.... to be.
But the absence of the imagination of "this, right now" (as "this, right now").....
...And the absence of the absence of the imagination of "this, right now" (as "this, right now")
I give up
Here, have a Cohiba.